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	<title>Comments on: Herpes Risk from Ancient Form of Circumcision</title>
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		<title>By: Far From Perfect</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2004/08/herpes-risk-from-ancient-form-of-circumcision.html/comment-page-1#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>Far From Perfect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Herpes Risk from Circumcision&lt;/strong&gt;

Eight infants developed genital herpes following an ancient Jewish ritual of circumcision, highlighting the dangers associated with this procedure, researchers report. All of the infants underwent a form of circumcision in which the circumciser, or moh...
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<p>Eight infants developed genital herpes following an ancient Jewish ritual of circumcision, highlighting the dangers associated with this procedure, researchers report. All of the infants underwent a form of circumcision in which the circumciser, or moh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2004/08/herpes-risk-from-ancient-form-of-circumcision.html/comment-page-1#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like the dream job for a pedophile with vampiristic tendencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like the dream job for a pedophile with vampiristic tendencies.</p>
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		<title>By: GruntDoc</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2004/08/herpes-risk-from-ancient-form-of-circumcision.html/comment-page-1#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator>GruntDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In answer to the above: I don&#039;t counsel parents on circs, that&#039;s the pediatricians&#039; of the FP&#039;s job, as they&#039;re usually done right after birth.  I believe it is painful to the infant.  So is falling down, hitting the coffee table, slamming a finger in a car door.  Since I have never read about an infant describing his circumcision, it&#039;s one of those things I think is best done as soon as possible (ask any adult who&#039;s had a circ: it&#039;s like chickenpox, the younger you have it the better off you are).

My main argument for it is hygeine.  Yes, many many men take good care of themselves, but you only need to see a couple of men with severe balanitis or penile CA, and the argument gets better.  I was once told by a urologist that after a slew of penile cancers / amps following WWI (hard to keep clean in a trench), circ became mainstream more as a preventive med thing than an act of religious faith.

As for lecturing people, some people are very full of themselves, and some of those people are doctors.  There are some legit concerns about piercing, but by the time we see them the deed is done. 

For what it&#039;s worth, I do not assume people with unusual piercings or tattoos are lowlifes ( insert your tooth/tattoo ratio joke here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to the above: I don&#8217;t counsel parents on circs, that&#8217;s the pediatricians&#8217; of the FP&#8217;s job, as they&#8217;re usually done right after birth.  I believe it is painful to the infant.  So is falling down, hitting the coffee table, slamming a finger in a car door.  Since I have never read about an infant describing his circumcision, it&#8217;s one of those things I think is best done as soon as possible (ask any adult who&#8217;s had a circ: it&#8217;s like chickenpox, the younger you have it the better off you are).</p>
<p>My main argument for it is hygeine.  Yes, many many men take good care of themselves, but you only need to see a couple of men with severe balanitis or penile CA, and the argument gets better.  I was once told by a urologist that after a slew of penile cancers / amps following WWI (hard to keep clean in a trench), circ became mainstream more as a preventive med thing than an act of religious faith.</p>
<p>As for lecturing people, some people are very full of themselves, and some of those people are doctors.  There are some legit concerns about piercing, but by the time we see them the deed is done. </p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I do not assume people with unusual piercings or tattoos are lowlifes ( insert your tooth/tattoo ratio joke here).</p>
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		<title>By: turtlehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>turtlehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 23:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc, I have a legitimate question that relates to circumcision. Doctors don&#039;t think anything of seeing a circumcized male, but a lot of my pierced/tattooed friends have gotten serious hell for things as simple as navel rings. Beyond the obvious questions (was this sterile, have you been tested for bloodborne diseases), is it appropriate for a doctor to give a morality lecture on body modification to someone who isn&#039;t asking for it? I can understand a doctor&#039;s lecturing an obese person on the risks of obesity, but telling someone with a tattoo that he or she is a lowlife?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc, I have a legitimate question that relates to circumcision. Doctors don&#8217;t think anything of seeing a circumcized male, but a lot of my pierced/tattooed friends have gotten serious hell for things as simple as navel rings. Beyond the obvious questions (was this sterile, have you been tested for bloodborne diseases), is it appropriate for a doctor to give a morality lecture on body modification to someone who isn&#8217;t asking for it? I can understand a doctor&#8217;s lecturing an obese person on the risks of obesity, but telling someone with a tattoo that he or she is a lowlife?</p>
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		<title>By: Azygos</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2004/08/herpes-risk-from-ancient-form-of-circumcision.html/comment-page-1#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Azygos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc,

You don?t think we ought to leave it up to the person (later in life) who is having part of his penis cut off to make that decision? I?d be interested in hearing your views on the benefits of circumcision. I don?t have kids and won?t but I am curious how the decision making process is achieved for those who believe in circumcision. What do you say to parents who want the procedure? Risks? Benefits? I don?t have a strong opinion either way except for the experiences I have had with elderly men with poor hygiene who are having penis cancer surgeries. 

Azygos</description>
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<p>You don?t think we ought to leave it up to the person (later in life) who is having part of his penis cut off to make that decision? I?d be interested in hearing your views on the benefits of circumcision. I don?t have kids and won?t but I am curious how the decision making process is achieved for those who believe in circumcision. What do you say to parents who want the procedure? Risks? Benefits? I don?t have a strong opinion either way except for the experiences I have had with elderly men with poor hygiene who are having penis cancer surgeries. </p>
<p>Azygos</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 02:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so disgusting...Talk about perverted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so disgusting&#8230;Talk about perverted!</p>
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		<title>By: CholeraJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>CholeraJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this on another discussion group and thought, &quot;What were they thinking?&quot; Yuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this on another discussion group and thought, &#8220;What were they thinking?&#8221; Yuck.</p>
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