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	<title>Comments on: Who pays more of their ED bill: the uninsured, or Medicaid?</title>
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	<description>Ramblings of an Emergency Physician in Texas</description>
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		<title>By: Chuck McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who can use the &quot;my insurance/Medicare will pay for this&quot; excuse can rationalize that they&#039;re not deadbeats.  That&#039;s more difficult when you don&#039;t have anyone to shift the responsibility to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who can use the &#8220;my insurance/Medicare will pay for this&#8221; excuse can rationalize that they&#8217;re not deadbeats.  That&#8217;s more difficult when you don&#8217;t have anyone to shift the responsibility to.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Care BS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Government Price Controls Strike Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Care BS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Government Price Controls Strike Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one really need to ask, as GruntDoc suggests, “why EDs are closing”? The below-cost-reimbursement hospitals receive for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one really need to ask, as GruntDoc suggests, “why EDs are closing”? The below-cost-reimbursement hospitals receive for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: etotheipi</title>
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		<dc:creator>etotheipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shadowfax is dead wrong or at least needs a new billing company. These numbers are right on for our uninsured population - and I work in a relatively &#039;poor&#039; community. Your collections agency should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shadowfax is dead wrong or at least needs a new billing company. These numbers are right on for our uninsured population &#8211; and I work in a relatively &#8216;poor&#8217; community. Your collections agency should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowfax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That study is crap.   Complete and utter crap.   Medicare barely pays 35% of their bills, let alone unfunded or medicaid patients.

Of course, it depends what your charge master is at.

Our charge master is at about the 65%ile according to Ingenix data, and I can expect a solid $0.35 per dollar billed on Medicare patients, $0.23 per dollar billed on medicaid patients, and $0.07 per dollar on uninsured patients.

I&#039;d like to have uninsured patients who paid 35%!   

I&#039;ll have to read the study to better critique it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That study is crap.   Complete and utter crap.   Medicare barely pays 35% of their bills, let alone unfunded or medicaid patients.</p>
<p>Of course, it depends what your charge master is at.</p>
<p>Our charge master is at about the 65%ile according to Ingenix data, and I can expect a solid $0.35 per dollar billed on Medicare patients, $0.23 per dollar billed on medicaid patients, and $0.07 per dollar on uninsured patients.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to have uninsured patients who paid 35%!   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to read the study to better critique it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GruntDoc</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2007/11/who-pays-more-of-their-ed-bill-the-uninsured-or-medicaid.html/comment-page-1#comment-8357</link>
		<dc:creator>GruntDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walk away from what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walk away from what?</p>
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		<title>By: 911doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>911doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great couple of finds with these articles. when do we walk away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great couple of finds with these articles. when do we walk away?</p>
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		<title>By: GruntDoc</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2007/11/who-pays-more-of-their-ed-bill-the-uninsured-or-medicaid.html/comment-page-1#comment-8355</link>
		<dc:creator>GruntDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paying less isn&#039;t working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying less isn&#8217;t working.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what needs to happen, until a sensible solution is found. Paying more is not the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what needs to happen, until a sensible solution is found. Paying more is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: The Happy Hospitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Happy Hospitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this everyday.  

FREE=MORE, and that will always be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this everyday.  </p>
<p>FREE=MORE, and that will always be the case.</p>
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