Comments on: Damage Pictures of USS Hartford (SSN 768) | USNI Blog http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html Ramblings of an Emergency Physician in Texas Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:42:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Tom http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-17211 Tom Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:55:29 +0000 http://gruntdoc.com/?p=3432#comment-17211 Glen has some good comments. As an old nuc myself (8 ssbn patrols), the biggest issue will be the watertight security of the hull penetrations of the scopes. Looks like they took a good hit. Can you imagine having to sit on top of the sail like that when pulling into port? I would imagine they will stabilize the sail, then sail her back on the surface to a shipyard. You cant submerge without scopes because you cant surface without scopes. Glen has some good comments. As an old nuc myself (8 ssbn patrols), the biggest issue will be the watertight security of the hull penetrations of the scopes. Looks like they took a good hit. Can you imagine having to sit on top of the sail like that when pulling into port? I would imagine they will stabilize the sail, then sail her back on the surface to a shipyard. You cant submerge without scopes because you cant surface without scopes.

]]> By: Matt http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-17058 Matt Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:07:25 +0000 http://gruntdoc.com/?p=3432#comment-17058 Remember that the San Francisco traveled something like 350 miles on the surface with severely damaged ballast tanks before it made it to Guam. From there it traveled to Puget Sound, WA with a temporary patch over the ballast tanks and sonar dome. It had far more damage than the Hartford and it made both trips under its own power. Remember that the San Francisco traveled something like 350 miles on the surface with severely damaged ballast tanks before it made it to Guam. From there it traveled to Puget Sound, WA with a temporary patch over the ballast tanks and sonar dome. It had far more damage than the Hartford and it made both trips under its own power.

]]> By: Jim Neaves http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-16983 Jim Neaves Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:16:20 +0000 http://gruntdoc.com/?p=3432#comment-16983 It may ride the surface back to a suitable shipyard in the South Pacific. They must have scopes and other masts that were damaged. Have fun going around the horn or into the cold water. On the Big N in 1966, we rode the surface coming back from Bermuda. That was only a day or so. The only booz damaged was what the officers had charge of. The electricians had no casualties among the bottles. The wash machine spare parts locker worked well. Jimbo It may ride the surface back to a suitable shipyard in the South Pacific. They must have scopes and other masts that were damaged. Have fun going around the horn or into the cold water. On the Big N in 1966, we rode the surface coming back from Bermuda. That was only a day or so.

The only booz damaged was what the officers had charge of. The electricians had no casualties among the bottles. The wash machine spare parts locker worked well.

Jimbo

]]> By: Glen http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-16970 Glen Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:31:44 +0000 http://gruntdoc.com/?p=3432#comment-16970 My best guess (as an old nuc) is that a team from the nearest sub tender will spend a week or three making repairs, then a long, slow trip home. For the sub without planes in the sail, it is mostly just a fairing to hold various masts, and for hydronamics to keep the boat stable underwater. So it is a very light structure. While it might be possible to certify a heavy lift ship for nuclear work, it is very unlikely. Remember that even a shut down reactor plant has a significant electrical load, and requirement for 100% reliable source of cooling water. The heavy lift ships are not desinged to provide those services. Much cheaper and more practical to have a sub tender make a "house call". Most likely it can be done with local equipment (cranes, etc) , with tender guys/gals flying in with the parts/tools to do the work. My best guess (as an old nuc) is that a team from the nearest sub tender will spend a week or three making repairs, then a long, slow trip home.

For the sub without planes in the sail, it is mostly just a fairing to hold various masts, and for hydronamics to keep the boat stable underwater. So it is a very light structure.

While it might be possible to certify a heavy lift ship for nuclear work, it is very unlikely. Remember that even a shut down reactor plant has a significant electrical load, and requirement for 100% reliable source of cooling water. The heavy lift ships are not desinged to provide those services.

Much cheaper and more practical to have a sub tender make a “house call”. Most likely it can be done with local equipment (cranes, etc) , with tender guys/gals flying in with the parts/tools to do the work.

]]> By: GruntDoc http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-16968 GruntDoc Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:47:29 +0000 http://gruntdoc.com/?p=3432#comment-16968 Good question. I dont know of a case of lifting one out of the water, though they go into drydock, so there must be a way to secure the reactor. I guess you could drive the Blue Mesa home submerged ( really slowly) or tow it home like a fish in an aquarium. Realistically I think it'll come home very slowly under its own steam. Good question. I dont know of a case of lifting one out of the water, though they go into drydock, so there must be a way to secure the reactor. I guess you could drive the Blue Mesa home submerged ( really slowly) or tow it home like a fish in an aquarium.

Realistically I think it’ll come home very slowly under its own steam.

]]> By: Steve http://gruntdoc.com/2009/03/damage-pictures-of-uss-hartford-ssn-768-usni-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-16967 Steve Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:14:48 +0000 http://gruntdoc.com/?p=3432#comment-16967 <i> I’d second the concerns of the commenters there that she’ll come home on the back of an ocean barge. </i> Maybe. Maybe not. This is a nuke hull. Is there any precedent piggybacking one out of water that you know of? I’d second the concerns of the commenters there that she’ll come home on the back of an ocean barge.

Maybe. Maybe not. This is a nuke hull. Is there any precedent piggybacking one out of water that you know of?

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