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	<title>Comments on: Physician killed for denying drug seeker a prescription</title>
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		<title>By: Spanglocity</title>
		<link>http://gruntdoc.com/2009/12/physician-killed-for-denying-drug-seeker-a-prescription.html/comment-page-1#comment-20608</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanglocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes this youtube blurb not so funny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m64cy1MMPg).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes this youtube blurb not so funny (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m64cy1MMPg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m64cy1MMPg</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckInMI</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckInMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, people/nurses shouldn&#039;t assume patients are drug seekers, like they did with me. Their written history should prove they are drug seekers, don&#039;t assume. However, I simply waited patiently in the ER with my first time kidney stones. 

But, the violence is a tragedy. There&#039;s a good reason why cameras should be in every ER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, people/nurses shouldn&#8217;t assume patients are drug seekers, like they did with me. Their written history should prove they are drug seekers, don&#8217;t assume. However, I simply waited patiently in the ER with my first time kidney stones. </p>
<p>But, the violence is a tragedy. There&#8217;s a good reason why cameras should be in every ER.</p>
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		<title>By: TheNewGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheNewGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure... because clearly they treated the patient like shit (eg. they didn&#039;t &quot;keep the customer happy&quot; by refilling his OxyContin), and thus brought this shooting on themselves.  In other words, by failing to fulfill the patient&#039;s desire for inappropriately-prescribed narcotics, the ED staff wore a short skirt and &quot;asked for it.&quot;

Any person who floats that particular spin needs punched in the mouth.  Hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure&#8230; because clearly they treated the patient like shit (eg. they didn&#8217;t &#8220;keep the customer happy&#8221; by refilling his OxyContin), and thus brought this shooting on themselves.  In other words, by failing to fulfill the patient&#8217;s desire for inappropriately-prescribed narcotics, the ED staff wore a short skirt and &#8220;asked for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any person who floats that particular spin needs punched in the mouth.  Hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Frey&#039;s article:  My concern is it seems to blame the victims of the shooting.
TRUE STORY by John Frey, MD: 

One day I went to lunch in the hospital cafeteria and emerged to find the hall lined with police officers, guns drawn. They were looking past me down the hallway. I chose to go in the direction that the officers were NOT looking. As I exited the back of the hospital, several black helicopters ominously circled overhead. No one knew where exactly the shooter was. Just then my supervising physician called me from inside the hospital and said, “get back to work.” I said, “where’s the shooter?” He didn’t know, so I said, “call me back when you find out”. It turned out several ER doctors were shot, including one in the head. The shooter, if I recall correctly, was upset that his friend, an outpatient, hadn’t received pain medicine.
  

LESSONS LEARNED
1. It’s better to prevent a ‘worst case scenario’ than to deal with it after the fact. Be courteous to everyone, all the time. (OK, 99.99% of the time). 

2. Don’t talk down to people, or you just might wind up talking up to someone. 

3. It is dangerous to work in a hospital with a culture that doesn’t respect patients (or each other) with basic human decency. 

4. Don’t wait for others to tell you what to do. Do what you think is right. 

5. Protect yourself even if – especially if – your supervisors won’t. 

6. If you see the ‘guns drawn sign’, vote with your feet.


AFTERMATH
I noticed in the weeks and months that followed this incident that patients seemed to be treated more compassionately and with more respect. But that could have been my imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Frey&#8217;s article:  My concern is it seems to blame the victims of the shooting.<br />
TRUE STORY by John Frey, MD: </p>
<p>One day I went to lunch in the hospital cafeteria and emerged to find the hall lined with police officers, guns drawn. They were looking past me down the hallway. I chose to go in the direction that the officers were NOT looking. As I exited the back of the hospital, several black helicopters ominously circled overhead. No one knew where exactly the shooter was. Just then my supervising physician called me from inside the hospital and said, “get back to work.” I said, “where’s the shooter?” He didn’t know, so I said, “call me back when you find out”. It turned out several ER doctors were shot, including one in the head. The shooter, if I recall correctly, was upset that his friend, an outpatient, hadn’t received pain medicine.</p>
<p>LESSONS LEARNED<br />
1. It’s better to prevent a ‘worst case scenario’ than to deal with it after the fact. Be courteous to everyone, all the time. (OK, 99.99% of the time). </p>
<p>2. Don’t talk down to people, or you just might wind up talking up to someone. </p>
<p>3. It is dangerous to work in a hospital with a culture that doesn’t respect patients (or each other) with basic human decency. </p>
<p>4. Don’t wait for others to tell you what to do. Do what you think is right. </p>
<p>5. Protect yourself even if – especially if – your supervisors won’t. </p>
<p>6. If you see the ‘guns drawn sign’, vote with your feet.</p>
<p>AFTERMATH<br />
I noticed in the weeks and months that followed this incident that patients seemed to be treated more compassionately and with more respect. But that could have been my imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Coupal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Coupal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, here in Kentucky, getting and taking narcotics is a way of life for some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, here in Kentucky, getting and taking narcotics is a way of life for some.</p>
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		<title>By: citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is bad enough the live of Dr. Dennis Sandlin was lost. But how hard it will be to find another physician to fill his spot in Leatherwood/Blackey Medical Clinic in Cornettsville? Because of the drug seeker a lot of patients who need medical care will be suffering from inability see a doctor for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is bad enough the live of Dr. Dennis Sandlin was lost. But how hard it will be to find another physician to fill his spot in Leatherwood/Blackey Medical Clinic in Cornettsville? Because of the drug seeker a lot of patients who need medical care will be suffering from inability see a doctor for some time.</p>
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		<title>By: DocV</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death as an outcome may be rare, but threats of violence and sometimes outright assault is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death as an outcome may be rare, but threats of violence and sometimes outright assault is not.</p>
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		<title>By: TheNewGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheNewGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;One such rare incident cannot be generalized.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Did you forget the incident a few months ago where a drug seeker in Florida bit off an elderly physician&#039;s finger?

The nastiest, most-a**holish patients are virtually always your drug seekers.  They physically threaten physicians and staff, they show their a**, cause a commotion... and can get violent.  One of my colleagues (ex-football player) was jumped by a drug-seeker, ended up body-slamming the guy, and the guy complained, and raised a huge stink about how he just needed medicine, and the doctor &quot;hurt&quot; him.  

Addicts are nasty people when they don&#039;t get what they want... and they do get violent.  I&#039;ve witnessed it too many times... so I&#039;ll generalize that every day of the week, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;One such rare incident cannot be generalized.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Did you forget the incident a few months ago where a drug seeker in Florida bit off an elderly physician&#8217;s finger?</p>
<p>The nastiest, most-a**holish patients are virtually always your drug seekers.  They physically threaten physicians and staff, they show their a**, cause a commotion&#8230; and can get violent.  One of my colleagues (ex-football player) was jumped by a drug-seeker, ended up body-slamming the guy, and the guy complained, and raised a huge stink about how he just needed medicine, and the doctor &#8220;hurt&#8221; him.  </p>
<p>Addicts are nasty people when they don&#8217;t get what they want&#8230; and they do get violent.  I&#8217;ve witnessed it too many times&#8230; so I&#8217;ll generalize that every day of the week, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: healthtips</title>
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		<dc:creator>healthtips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sad to hear. One such rare incident cannot be generalized.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sad to hear. One such rare incident cannot be generalized.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Hospitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Hospitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is reporting the fact that the patient was requesting narcotics a HIPAA violation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is reporting the fact that the patient was requesting narcotics a HIPAA violation?</p>
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